2500def+++ vamp thief

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2500def+++ vamp thief

Fri May 11, 2012 6:28 pm

Again another instance where vamps are overpowered. I remember vamp scouts with 2600+def and MASSIVE health drain. Glad tehy nerferd that.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Sat May 12, 2012 11:01 pm

unless you severely lacked trains and skill points in other places or were booned+buffed out your [fluffy bunnies] you werent hitting that on a good build. i think my best thieves had around 2.3-2.4 priest buffed in resource gear.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Sun May 13, 2012 1:42 am

i had a shade thief that while in rat form with priest buffs, vorg armor, 20 dex jewels and the #1 shade boon, had around 2600 def. on the ptc previews i made the same thief and achieved over 2000 def with sdr gear no boon and a conc pot
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Sun May 13, 2012 8:07 am

i didnt play the previews really but i heard the formulas were off. but yes rats can achieve the high def but u trade so much to be in form.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Fri May 25, 2012 5:36 am

with rat form you can hit 3000 def on a PvP-viable thief (assuming you consider wererats to be PvP-viable).
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Thu May 31, 2012 9:46 am

The vamp thief he's talking about I was very popular with. However it is a 35 con build and 1 lucky fire/holy dot could keep you hunting for preys for your drain or begging for heals. The downside is it leaves you really low on trains so if you want the high drain ATR you need to use a xbow. Fully booned and buffed with vorg/resource I had roughly 3.5k def. It hits like a truck with strigoi, and it drains for like 400-500. But a normal vamp thief will have an easy 2.5k def with conc pot and drain for 330-400 or so.

The power behind them lies in the well timing and usage of the two fortitudes. If you can getting swarmed by casters then you pop your strigoi and watch those 100's they do with their biggest nuke that normally hits for like 800+. Then after a few lucky hits on you, you drain to full life. The biggest difference between rats and the low con vamp is fighting vs high damage single tick sources. A mino war would 1-2 shot your rat but would take like 20 swings to kill your vamp. If 2 casters pop up, blind you the rat pops or runs right away. The vamp gets to kill one b4 death or running. As long as you dont get an unlucky holy/fire dot on you.

The rats are powerful mainly versus rogues, so they make great scouts. For thieves I find much better choices than that since the sword buff, the thief buff etc.

Edit: I just saw an Old SS it is in fact 3.8k def
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Thu May 31, 2012 2:46 pm

ya my ranger has 2100 def at lv 40 not hard to do 2500. You just have to know how to build def toons :p
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:16 pm

Vamp thieves are terrible so who gives a Skah!.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:00 pm

I can't think of one class that a vamp is op in. What the Skah! are you talking about crazy ?
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:31 pm

Who is you talkin' to?
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:35 pm

I did a tldnr and made an [fluffy bunnies] of myself that is all carry on.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:35 pm

Get this trash out of my forum.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:49 am

Maximiliuss wrote:The vamp thief he's talking about I was very popular with. However it is a 35 con build and 1 lucky fire/holy dot could keep you hunting for preys for your drain or begging for heals. The downside is it leaves you really low on trains so if you want the high drain ATR you need to use a xbow. Fully booned and buffed with vorg/resource I had roughly 3.5k def. It hits like a truck with strigoi, and it drains for like 400-500. But a normal vamp thief will have an easy 2.5k def with conc pot and drain for 330-400 or so.

The power behind them lies in the well timing and usage of the two fortitudes. If you can getting swarmed by casters then you pop your strigoi and watch those 100's they do with their biggest nuke that normally hits for like 800+. Then after a few lucky hits on you, you drain to full life. The biggest difference between rats and the low con vamp is fighting vs high damage single tick sources. A mino war would 1-2 shot your rat but would take like 20 swings to kill your vamp. If 2 casters pop up, blind you the rat pops or runs right away. The vamp gets to kill one b4 death or running. As long as you dont get an unlucky holy/fire dot on you.

The rats are powerful mainly versus rogues, so they make great scouts. For thieves I find much better choices than that since the sword buff, the thief buff etc.

Edit: I just saw an Old SS it is in fact 3.8k def
I've played similiar, 3.8k def... i call bullsheet, and if it did you had no dodge, no crippling, and low bloodcraft.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:07 am

3.8k def only? Haha, nubcakes. You can easily attain 4k def on a similar build, easy!
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:42 am

I hope you guys are just trolling eachother...
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Wed May 08, 2013 12:06 pm

had a vamp thief with 2.5/2.6 def was nasty too..yes it pretty easy to attain, but i think this time i'm going to mess with an xbow thief
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Tue May 28, 2013 5:22 pm

Get this trash out of my forum, Skah!.
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:45 am

This gimp speaks the truth
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:46 am

gimp .
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:54 pm

Deathmarch wrote:with rat form you can hit 3000 def on a PvP-viable thief (assuming you consider wererats to be PvP-viable).
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Re: 2500def+++ vamp thief

Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:22 pm

It was 2.8k, 2.4k normal. Typo

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